HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_P&Z_08.10.2000Minutes
Planning and Zoning Commission of the
City of Georgetown, Texas
Thursday, August 10, 2000
Chair, Patrick Walsh called the meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. Other Commissioners present were Jack
Noble, Marjorie Herbert, Charles Parker, Gabe Sansing and Sarah Milburn. Don Nadon was absent.
Staff members present were Ed Barry, Director, Cathy Riedel, Assistant City Attorney, James Baker,
Development Planner, David Munk, Development Engineer, Carla Benton, Development Technician, Jim
Babcock, Development Technician, Abe Yirgou, Building Plan Reviewer, Brian Mabry, Planning Intern
and Janis Russell, Recording Secretary.
1. Action from Executive Session. None.
Consent Agenda
2. Consideration and possible action on the Minutes of the July 6, 2000, Planning and Zoning
Commission Meeting.
3. Consideration and possible action on a Public Review Final Plat of 15.62 acres in the D.
Monroe, J. Sutherland and A.W. Williams Surveys, to be known as Fountainwood Plaza, located
at 5299 to 5658 RM2338 (Williams Drive), with Variances to the Subdivision Regulations. This
item was pulled from the agenda at the request of the applicant.
4. Consideration and possible action on a Record Final Plat of 6.752 acres in the Antonio Flores
Survey, to be known as The Planned Unit Development of Katy Crossing, Section Five,
located along Bastian Lane, with Variances to the Subdivision Regulations.
5. Consideration and possible action on a Rezoning of 4.35 acres in the Clement Stubblefield
Survey, from RS, Residential Single Family and RP, Residential Planned District to C-1, Local
Commercial, or any more restrictive district, located on Railroad Street.
Charles Parker made a motion to recommend approval of Agenda Items 2, 4 and 5 of the Consent
Agenda. Jack Noble seconded the motion which passed by a vote of 6-0.
Regular Agenda
6. Consideration and possible action on a Rezoning with a Site Plan as required by the Zoning
Ordinance, with Variances to the Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance, from RS,
Residential Single Family, to RP, Residential Planned, or any more restrictive district, for Snyder
Addition, 0.661 acres out of the easterly part of Block 7, located at 1008 E. University
Avenue. Ed Barry gave the staff report and recommendation. John and Sue Wiley, the
applicants, were present and addressed the Commission and clarified how they intended to
operate the proposed Bed and Breakfast:
They hoped to rent rooms to Southwestern parents and visiting faculty; and possibly UT
parents, as well as neighbor’s relatives.
They will be the on-site managers.
There will be no delivery trucks except maybe an occasional UPS truck.
There will be no dumpsters.
They will maintain the outside with more landscaping and add a sprinkler system.
A 6' privacy fence will be constructed.
There will be no lights on poles.
They wish to maintain the look of a residence.
The following citizens spoke in favor of the rezoning application: Liz Atherton, Mary Beth
Magrum, John Milburn, and Carolyn Martin. Renee Hanson, representing the Heart of
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Georgetown Neighborhood Association supported the request if a maximum length of stay was
established and if a provision is made that states that if the property is not operated as a Bed
and Breakfast for one year, the zoning would revert back to RS, Residential Single Family. Eb
Girvin, owner of 1209 Olive Street, addressed the Commission and stated that he objected to the
request because the parking lot is proposed to be located on such a narrow street and if 16 -17
people had breakfast there each morning, there would a lot of garbage, with spillage, overflow
and flies. Skip Morse, 1202 Laurel Street, spoke in opposition to the rezoning because he felt
that the rezoning would bring more commercialization into the neighborhood; it would cause a
decline in historical features; a B&B is the same as hotels and motels and will destroy t he
University Avenue corridor. He encouraged the Commission to respect the integrity of the
neighborhood and recommend denial of the rezoning request. James Tressimer, 1102 E. 13th,
addressed the Commission and stated that this project will increase traff ic in the area and cause
utility problems such as blackouts and low water pressure. Donald and Eugenia Harrell, 1304
Olive, both stated that they had no objections to the proposed B&B. Thomas Nichols, 1506 Elm
Street and a member of the Design Guidelines Committee stated that this type of development
is what the committee is advocating. He handed out pictures that addressed the setback
variance request. He spoke in favor of reducing the setback to 10' on 13th street to save trees.
Gabe Sansing stated that he was in favor of the proposed rezoning. Sarah Milburn stated that
she too was in favor and thought that it was a wonderful use for this property on University
Avenue. She also pointed out that the CVB supports the request. Marjorie Herbert stated th at
she had concerns for the legality of rezoning reverting back to RS as requested by the Heart of
Georgetown Neighborhood Association. Cathy Reidel responded that restrictions could be placed
on the motion. Ed Barry stated that reversions have been done in the past but that in this case,
the RP zoning stipulates B&B use only, or “any more restrictive district”. RS is the more
restrictive district, so a “reversion” clause is not necessary. Marjorie Herbert stated that she wa s
in favor of the rezoning, with proposed restrictions. Charles Parker stated that more people
were in favor of the request, than opposed, so he was in favor of the request. Jack Noble stated
that he supported the request with the length of stay requirement. Patrick Walsh agreed with
those in favor and with staff recommendation with variances. Sarah Milburn asked that the
motion be flexible on parking in the setback in order to save trees. She agreed with the number
of parking spaces recommended by staff. Patrick Walsh read a letter from the CVB supporting
the rezoning. After the discussion, Marjorie Herbert made a motion to approve the Rezoning
for Snyder Addition, 0.661 acres out of the easterly part of Block 7 from RS, Residential Single
Family to RP, Residential Planned District, with the attached site plan for the purpose of
operating a Bed and Breakfast in an existing residence and to allow a 6 foot privacy fence to be
built closer than the 25 foot setback; subject to the following conditions:
1. The use of the property is restricted to use for a Bed and Breakfast or any use permitted in the
RS - Residential Single Family Zoning District;
2. Use of the property for a Bed and Breakfast shall require an on-site resident manager;
3. The preparation and serving of food is restricted to overnight guests;
4. Hosting of social events or meetings is prohibited;
5. No dumpster as a receptacle of garbage shall be located on site; and
6. Length of stay for guests is limited to 14 consecutive nights.
The site plan, as submitted, is acceptable. Sarah Milburn seconded the motion which passed by
a vote of 6-0.
The Commission recessed at 7:15 p.m and reconvened at 7:23 p.m.
7. Consideration and possible action on a Detailed Development Plan for Midway Business Park,
Lot 1, to be known as Barrett Mitsubishi, located on John Hamilton Parkway, with Variances to
the Subdivision Regulations and Zoning Ordinance. Ed Barry gave the staff report and
recommendation. Mike Hampton, applicant, was present and showed colored elevations of the
building. George Vaughn, the architect, responded to questions from the Commission. Gabe
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Sansing stated that it’s hard to soften a car dealership and was in favor of the request. Sarah
Milburn stated that she was in favor of the request and variances; Marjorie Herbert was not in
favor of waiving landscaping requirement for the auto display parking area and suggested
possibly some landscape islands. Ed Barry responded that they are not waiving landscaping, but
the landscaping will be in other areas of the property. Charles Parker was in favor of the project.
Jack Noble shared Marjorie Herbert’s concern on landscaping. Patrick Walsh supported the
project as submitted. Mike Hampton responded that the location of trees and shrubs is not an
issue and they will do whatever the Commission requires. Gabe Sansing pointed out that the
islands in the display area parking lot would need to be irrigated and would be hard to maintain.
After the discussion, Sarah Milburn made a motion to approve the Detailed Development Plan of
Barrett Mitsubishi, provided the Technical Issues are addressed prior to City Council
consideration. Approval of the requested variance to Section 34020F3 of the Subdivision
Regulations to allow more than one driveway access for a corner lot; Table 33030A of the
Subdivision Regulations to allow a driveway closer than the required 125 foot separation; Section
37030F of the Subdivision Regulations to waive the landscaping requirement for the auto display
parking area; and Section 5.502 of the Zoning Ordinance regarding the requirement for building
articulation, after making the required findings of fact. Gabe Sansing seconded the motion
which failed to pass with a 4-2 vote (Marjorie Herbert and Jack Noble voted opposed). Both
Marjorie Herbert and Jack Noble stated that they did not want the development to be held up
because of the lack of landscaping in the display area. Jack Noble made a motion to reconsider
the motion. Marjorie Herbert seconded the motion which passed by a vote of 6-0. The previous
motion and second then passed by a vote of 6-0.
8. Consideration and possible action on a Rezoning of Quail Meadow, Unit 1, Block 7, Lot 6, from
RS, Residential Single Family to RM-3, Office and Service Use District, or any more restrictive
district, located at 701 River Bend Drive. James Baker gave the staff report and
recommendation. Brenda Limmer, the applicant and owner was present. Candy Linch
addressed the Commission in support of the applicant, stating that the entrance will be on
Mesquite and will not intrude into the neighborhood and that the property is better maintained
now than a year ago because it is no longer a rental unit. Nelma Wilkinson, 907 River Bend,
stated that she was opposed to the request because a barrier needs to be established between
residential and commercial properties. Herb Wade, president of the Country Club Area
Homeowner’s Association, spoke opposed to the request. Brenda Limmer stated that she had
polled the property owners and at that time they had no problem with the rezoning. Jack Noble
asked why she wanted to rezone if she already ran the beauty salon from there. Ms Limmer
stated that she wished to add a salon coordinator. All Commissioners supported denial of the
requested rezoning. Jack Noble made a motion to deny the requested rezoning of Quail
Meadow, Unit 1, Block 7, Lot 6, from RS, Residential Single Family to RM-3, Residential-Office
and Service Use District, located at 701 River Bend Drive. Gabe Sansing seconded the motion
which passed by a vote of 6-0.
9. Consideration and possible action on a Rezoning of San Gabriel Estates, Lots 1, 2, 3, 23, and
24, from RS, Residential Single Family, to C-1, Commercial-First Height, or any more restrictive
district, located at the west corner of Williams Drive and Booty’s Crossing Road.
Consideration and possible action on a Public Review Final Plat of the Resubdivision of San
Gabriel Estates, Lots 1, 2, 3, 23 and 24, located at the west corner of Williams Drive and
Booty’s Crossing Road, with possible Variances to the Subdivision Regulations.
Carla Benton gave the staff report and recommendation . Renee Hanson, representing Bobby
Frederickson, addressed the Commission and informed the Commission that an
agreement had been reached with surrounding property owners regarding a 150' strip along
Booty’s Crossing Road on Lot 1B to rezone to RM3, Restricted to not allow multifamily. Cecil
Ray, representing residents of River Bend, addressed the Commission and voiced traffic
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concerns since the River Bend subdivision has only one entrance/exit on Booty’s Road. David
Vernooy, representing Riverbend Village II residents stated that they would like to see traffic on
Booty’s Road minimized, so they are favorable of 2 driveways on Williams Drive. Jacqueline
Malloy, Village One stated that she supported the agreement with the developer, the second
driveway cut on Williams Drive and complemented the developer on working with the property
owners. Noel Pittman, 212 Village Drive stated that he originally objected to C-1, but now
supports the application with the second driveway on Williams Drive and the 150' RM-3 zoning.
Gabe Sansing stated that he supported the RM3 buffer and second driveway on Williams Drive
with a right turn-in and right turn-out design. Sarah Milburn, Marjorie Herbert and Charles
Parker supported the request as revised and commended the developer and surrounding
property owners for working together. Jack Noble agreed but thought it was a mistake to line up
the driveway with Sonic’s driveway across Williams Drive. Patrick Walsh supported the request
with 2 driveways because of the shape of the lot. Gabe Sansing asked about a deceleration
lane along Williams Drive. John Nelson of Fisher Hagood, stated that TXDOT was not in favor
of a deceleration lane, but accepted the 2 driveway cuts on Williams Drive. Patrick Walsh
proposed a 10 minute recess to draft the Findings of Fact. Ed Barry stated that the staff, with the
applicant, can draft the Findings of Fact. Sarah Milburn made a motion to postpone voting on
Regular Agenda item #9 until later in the session and return after consideration of Agenda Item
#10. Marjorie Herbert seconded the motion which passed by a vote of 6-0. Patrick Walsh
made a motion to recommend approval of the requested Rezoning of San Gabriel Estates, Lots
1, 2, 3, 23 and 24, from RS, Residential Single Family, to C-1, Local Commercial and RM-3
Restricted (no duplexes, triplexes or apartments) , Office and Service District, or any more
restrictive district; and approval of the Public Review Final Plat of the Resubdivision of San
Gabriel Estates, Lots 1, 2, 3, 23 and 24, provided the Technical Issues are addressed prior to
City Council consideration, with approval of the requested variances to Section 34020 F. 2 & 3.
and Table 33030A of the Subdivision Regulations for a joint driveway cut allowing Lot 1A, a
corner lot, to have direct access from Williams Drive (driveway will be for right-turn in and
right-turn out only); and to allow the proposed driveway separations to be closer than the
required 450 feet, after making the required findings of fact. Jack Noble seconded the motion
which passed by a vote of 6-0.
10. Consideration and possible action on a Revised Detailed Development Plan for a 30.29 acre
portion of Lot 1 in the Amended Frost and Benold Subdivision for Georgetown Independent
School District’s Benold Middle School, located at 2407 Northwest Boulevard, with Variances to
the Subdivision Regulations. Ed Barry gave the staff report and recommendation. Dr. Jim
Gunn addressed the Commission. Patrick Wals h asked why there is no fencing around
playgrounds to control. Dr. Gunn stated that there are 2 playgrounds and the children go from
one to another. Sarah Milburn asked how many buses would go through the neighborhood and
the response was 22 buses. She asked if this access is opened, how could the school district
restrict cars from using the Arrowhead entrance. The response was that a school resource
officer would be on duty to monitor who uses the driveway. Randy Adair informed the
Commission of the bus schedule from 7:45 to 8:45 in the morning and 3:00 to 3:45 in the
afternoon. The ESE program starts at 3:00 p.m. at Frost and Benold has an afternoon program
starting at 3:57. Kathleen Watson addressed the Commission and was in favor of putting the
buses on the public street instead of through the playground. Stan Mauldin, a Thornwood
resident, stated that he felt that this may be moving the safety issue to another area because of
the children walking to school from the Emerald Springs subdivision. He st ated that the school
district should look at gating or fencing on the inside of school property. Don Prifogle, a
Thornwood resident, voiced his concern for risk and safety shifting from a controlled environment
of the school to a residential environment. He stated that today there were 18 cars parked on
Thornwood, which has no sidewalks, on both sides of the street, to pick up kids from school.
These kids are in danger too, especially with buses running down the streets, while they are
walking to their parents cars. He suggested keeping the children in until buses are through
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running. Jesse Hoke of 107 Arrowhead Lane, addressed the Commission with his concerns. He
stated that children walking to and from school are also in danger. An alternative suggestio n
would be fence it, gate it and monitor the gates (on the playgrounds). Mr. Hoke stated that the
proposed revision just shifts the risk. Sarah Milburn felt that the proposed revision would be
going from a controlled environment to an uncontrolled environment and it is not right to route
buses through the neighborhood. Gabe Sansing stated that he supported fencing and gating
and not re-routing. Marjorie Herbert was in favor of re-routing. She stated that the people
who choose to bring their children or let them walk to school, have the risk. The school district
is responsible for the safety of children on the buses and in the program on the school campus.
She felt that the school district has the greatest risk and fewer options. Charles Parker agreed
with Marjorie Herbert and stated that the safety risk to the students far outweighs the
inconvenience to the residents. Jack Noble stated that Arrowhead and Thornwood are so narrow
and he did not feel like this was a win/win situation and asked if there w ere any other options.
Marjorie Herbert asked how many children are involved in the ESE program. Jan Williams,
director of the program responded that they had 60 children that day, with a maximum capacity of
85 K-2nd grade students. Patrick Walsh asked about a driveway on to Northwest Boulevard from
the school property. He stated that he opposed the revision, especially with no sidewalks on
Arrowhead. Sarah Milburn suggested that GISD re-work the solution, because both risks are
great. Patrick Walsh suggested tabling this item until the September meeting to allow GISD to
work with surrounding residents and look for an engineered solution. Marjorie Herbert made a
motion to aprove the DDP revision as submitted. Charles Parker seconded the motion which
failed to pass with a vote of 2-4 (Gabe Sansing, Sarah Milburn, Patrick Walsh and Jack Noble
opposed). Patrick Walsh made a motion to table until the next P&Z meeting with a request for
GISD to explore alternatives and communicate with surrounding residents . Sarah Milburn
seconded the motion which passed by a vote of 4-2 (Marjorie Herbert and Charles Parker
opposed). Patrick Walsh stated that he would write a letter to the City Council for the August
22nd City Council meeting to explain the Commission’s action on this item.
Sarah Milburn made a motion to move Agenda Items #11 and #12 to the September P&Z
meeting. Gabe Sansing seconded the motion which passed by a vote of 6-0.
11. Staff comments and reports.
a. Council action update.
b. Discussion of Rear Setbacks for Accessory Structures
12. Commission comments and reports.
a. Discussion of Findings of Fact
With no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 10:05 p.m.