HomeMy WebLinkAboutMinutes_PAREB_11.10.2011Minutes of the Meeting of
the Parks and Recreation Board
City of Georgetown, Texas
Thursday, November 10, 2011
The Parks and Recreation Board of the City of Georgetown, Texas, met on Thursday , November 10,
2011.
Members Present:
Daniel Dance, Jean Houck, John Hesser, Robert Laemel, Shane Morris, Syed Warisi
Members Absent:
Staff Present:
Kimberly Garrett, Jill Kellum, Paul Brandenburg, Laurie Brewer, Traci Stengle
Micki Ross attended as a guest.
Minutes
Regular Meeting
1. Ca11 to order
The meeting was called to order by Daniel Dance at 6:30 PM.
2. Roll call
Daniel Dance, John Hesser, Shane Morris, Syed Warisi, Jean Houck, Bob Laemel
City Staff: Paul Brandenburg, Laurie Brewer, Kimberly Garrett, Jill Kellum, Traci
Stengle
Guest: Micki Ross
3. Executive Session
Sec. 551.072 Deliberation about Real Property
A. Discussion and deliberation concerning proposed real estate purchase
of a 17 acre tract along the South San Gabriel River on Hwy 29 for
parkland
Executive Session was closed.
Bob Laemel made a motion to recommend that the Parks and Recreation Board
recommend purchase of a 17 acre tract along the South San Gabriel River on Hwy
29 for parkland as proposed and Jean Houck seconded the motion. There was
some discussion. The motion passed 5 -1, with John Hesser opposing.
4. Discussion and possible action on art design for the low water bridge at Blue
Hole Park and the hike and bike trail
Kimberly Garrett presented proposed artwork to be implemented by a local
restaurant close to Blue Hole Park. She stated the landowner will pay for the art on
the bridge and anything park related. She explained that it is glow in the dark paint
and is intended to be viewed at night. She stated it would connect to the downtown
area. The Historic and Architectural Review Commission, HARC, would also have
to approve this. The artist has some work on the River Walk in San Antonio. Parks
Board appreciates this being presented to the board. The board would not like to
take action on this item. The board would like to see concepts that are more
culturally aesthetic to Georgetown.
5. Discussion and presentation on indoor pool utilization
Kimberly Garrett presented information collected on the usage of the indoor pool at
the Recreation Center. Bob Laemel asked if the pool can be reserved on Saturday.
Kimberly Garrett stated they like to keep the pool open for families during this time.
Staff feels there is too much of a conflict with our current program. They feel it
causes a problem with the training that we already provide. Daniel Dance
suggested that the needs can be met with the current offerings that we provide and
currently having an organized training that goes against our policy.
6. Discussion and presentation on Tennis Center capital replacement costs and
priorities
Kimberly Garrett presented information on cost estimates for capital replacement
costs, priorities from the staff and history of the property including maintenance and
repairs that have been done to the property since the City of Georgetown purchased
it. Kimberly Garrett stated Musco Lighting did a cost estimate and stated the facility
was unique as the courts are close together and the poles are positioned incorrectly.
Traci Stengle stated the idea of lights is to have more programming at night and 5 of
the 11 courts have been updated in the past 2 years. Traci Stengle explained that if
Musco Lighting installed high mast lighting it would cost $250,000.00. Traci Stengle
stated we have worked with what we have by installing new fixtures and lights
which is better but is still below average. Traci Stengle explained that each lighting
company has a formula for best lighting for their own product, their poles, etc. and
since the lights there are so old and not correctly placed there is not a formula for
aiming light in the correct location for them. She explained they hope to tweak the
lights for better lighting with the assistance of an experienced contractor. Bob
Laemel asked how much money was used to update two courts. Traci Stengle
stated it was approximately $12,000.00. Bob Laemel stated he would like to see a
professional adjust the lights instead of it done by the facilities department as he
feels they are not adjusted correctly and they need to be done correctly or money is
being thrown down the drain. Bob Laemel stated he would like to see the courts
resurfaced and not see the $35,000.00 thrown down the drain if not done properly
for the lights. Kimberly Garrett showed that the lights were never addressed in the
past and that the courts were always addressed. Bob Laemel stated if there is money
in capital improvements for tennis and the courts being number one priority he
would suggest doing that and he would be totally opposed to facilities working on
the lights and would hate to see the City of Georgetown throw another $35,000.00 to
fix these lights and come out with no more candle power than you have and
shadows than you have. John Hesser states that the Tennis Center is doing a good
job with what they have. The programming with reaching the children and
participation is going good. Traci Stengle stated that in 2013 the top 4 courts will
have some maintenance done to bring them up to higher standards.
7. Discussion and possible action on considering the pyramid pricing model for
parks and recreation programs
Kimberly Garrett presented and explained a pyramid methodology of subsidy
allocation/cost recovery goals. The staff is currently gathering and listing all
programs that we offer and how they are allocated into this pyramid associated to
costs and the fee we collect with each program. The Parks and Recreation
department is working with the Finance Department to determine the indirect costs;
administrative cost, building, overhead, and employee costs. Daniel Dance asked
how this will help. Kimberly Garrett stated it will justify the fees and costs of the
programs and the priorities which will eventually be presented to City Council to
show how we are trying to make the department self sufficient. Kimberly Garrett
explained the community benefits and what citizens expect to be provided for their
tax dollars such as parks, playgrounds, trails, pools and special events. The pyramid
would identify which programs would be self sufficient to the community offerings
that are totally subsidized. John Hesser stated he would recommend having a
statement that outlines the philosophy that says these programs, events or amenities
are provided and anything outside this range there are expenses to the potential
user. He stated that people need to understand that even though you are paying
you are getting a gift at the same time. Kimberly Garrett stated this would lead into
a vision statement and a mission statement for Parks and Recreation. John Hesser
stated that what he loves about a mission statement, if you get it approved by City
Council, everything fits into it and the job is half done. Bob Laemel stated the
pyramid puts everything in perspective based on programming. You look at what is
sufficient and non sufficient and what is free. Kimberly Garrett stated that the entire
realm of providing recreation and paying for services has changed over the last
several years. Kimberly Garrett explained that not everything is revenue generating
and that quality of life and education is an aspect that has to be considered.
Bob Laemel made a motion to endorse the cost recovery methodology presented
for the Parks and Recreation Department for the City of Georgetown and the
motion was seconded by John Hesser and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
8. Update on Trail RFQ process and timeline
John Hesser stated the committee is meeting for the first time next week and there
will be an update next meeting. There was some discussion on the timeline for the
project and the amount of time it took to get this project started.
9. Update on Make a Splash national swim program — Jean Houck
Jean Houck stated the Make a Splash application is done and are waiting for
approval. Then the City of Georgetown would need to endorse them to be on the
insurance policy.
10. Update from Friends of Georgetown Parks and Recreation (FGPR) — Houck
Bob Laemel stated the Friends of Georgetown Parks and Recreation (FGPR) have
developed a budget. FGPR have met with Zelinda Richards with the homeless teen
group. Bob Laemel stated that FGPR have provided close to $600.00 providing
assistance to families and youth for all different programs. They are looking for
board members and wanting to increase their membership. They are inviting past
Parks and Recreation Board members to the meeting to get them interested.
11. Discussion of Parks and Recreation Monthly Review for October
John Hesser brought up ideas of the cemetery becoming break even and it will be
put on a future agenda. There was a correction to be made to the Georgetown Learn
to Swims information. It should state "at no cost to the participant". Bob Laemel
would like to compliment the Senior Program Coordinator for all the work he is
doing with programming.
12. Approve minutes from the October 13, 2011 meeting
Bob Laemel made a motion to approve the minutes and it was seconded by John
Hesser and the motion passed by unanimous vote.
13. Future agenda items
14. Adjourn
Bob Laemel m
a motion to adjourn. The meeting adjourned at 9 j►7 pm.
Daniel Dance, Chair Parks/Recreation Board
ouck, Secretary Parks/Recreation Board