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Historic and Architectural Review Commission
The Georgetown Historic and Architectural Review Commission met on Thursday, July 25, 2024 at
6:00 PM at Council and Court Building, 510 W 9th Street.
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The following Members were in attendance,
Present were: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Alton Martin, Jennifer
Powell, Robert Blomquist, Heather Smith, Stuart Garner
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1 . Regular Session
1.A Meeting Minutes
Consideration and possible action to approve the minutes from the July 11, 2024,
regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission -- Erica Metress,
Motion Approved: 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Alton Martin, Jennifer
Powell, Robert Blomquist, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
1. B 2024-16-COA (1903 S. Austin Avenue)
Public Hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness
(COA) for • of a historic architectural feature with a non -historic architectural
and the • to a • architectural feature for the property •• at •1 S.
Austin Avenue, bearing the legal description of Lots 10-11, Block 1 of the Montgomery
Addition to Georgetown (2024-16-COA) -- Olivia Beams, Historic and Downtown Planner
Rueben Rodriguez, applicant, approached the podium to address the commission and
provided a presentation.
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on March 18th and March 22nd. OKelley continued to explain that a complete
application was submitted on April 9th.
Commissioner Powell asked how the lights on the column were treated in the design
guidelines. •, shared that • and illumination of lights are included in the design
guidelines but there was no applicability in the Unified • Code or UDC. Beams
explained that staff was only able to review applicable requirements in the UDC.
Commissioner Powell shared her appreciation in the time spent to restore and manage
the home.
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• Rodriguez explained that there was marked evidence showing that the
columns were nailed to the • • the • before he had it painted.
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Chair Walton inquired about the space above the porch. Rodriguez explained that there
was an attic space above the porch.
Commissioner Romero asked if the beams were visible from the attic. Rodriguez
explained that the beams were not visible from the attic space.
Commissioner Smith asked if the applicant had thought of reinforcing the header that
expanded across the porch to m itivate—t�g, gin a -,-Rodriguez shared that he did not
think about it because he thought he was doing so by replacing the columns.
Moved by Linda C Burns; seconded by Jennifer Powell to Approve the stone to brick
request and denial of the addition of the two wood porch columns.
Motion Approved* 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Alton Martin, Jennifer
Powell, Robert Blomquist, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
1.0 UDC Rewrite Discussion
Presentation and discussion regarding proposed updates to the Unified Development
Code (UDC) development standards for properties within the Historic Overlay Districts - -
Maddison O'Kelley, Preservation and Redevelopment Manager
Maddison O'Kelley began with an outline of the presentation and encouraged feedback
on building height modification criteria,
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Commissioner Romero also confirmed that there have been circumstances where
building height modification request would have been justified in Old Town and
qpeccally highlighted the Lofts on Rock project and downtown parking garage
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Commissioner Martin explained that scope creep and tunnel affect was a concern of his.
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reviewing building height modification requests.
Chair Walton mentioned that HARC considers context and recommended a benchmark
as it pertains to context. O'Kelley asked if a benchmark to look at buildings on a shared
block would be sufficient. Chair Walton agreed to the suggestion of a benchmark with
buildings on the block and closest cross streets. Commissioner Martin suggested a
benchmark of at least 300 feet excluding buildings on the square.
Commissioner Powell commented that 300 feet may be insufficient and provided a
possibility of half mile marker. Commissioner Powell shared that maintaining the character
requires the preservation of the experience from the pedestrian's perspective and
suggested in requiring that the 3rd story of a request is set back by 10 feet. Commissioner
Powell highlighted the building placement of the R Bank.
Commissioner Martin mentioned that the current guidelines for residential height
requirements are adequate and shared his concern with commercial buildings.
With no further discussion, O'Kelley continued the presentation and requested feedback
to establish guidance for qualification and criteria for a demolition submitted under a
compelling public interest.
Commissioner Smith mentioned that compelling public interest should include safety
concerns of a building.
Commissioner Martin agreed with Commissioner Smith in that compelling public interest
included the public safety. Commissioner Martin highlighted a previous request from
Southwestern University that included the request of a removal of buildings on Maple
Street in which they would be replace with a restaurant that would be open to the public.
Commissioner Martin recounted another removal request from Southwestern University
that would replace the requested buildings with a student center with a venue open to the
public.
Alternate Commissioner Blomquist shared that "public interest" can include a positive
outcome such as a medical facility for the public.
Commissioner Powell shared that immediate neighbors of a demolition request often
attend the meeting to share their background with the surrounding area and highlighted
that she takes what they have to say in consideration.
Chair Walton mentioned that hygiene should be considered as public interest in the
request for demolition or relocation of a building and provided an example of a
building with insect and animal infestation.
Commissioner Burns shared that the public interest in a demolition was often about
preservation of a building.
With no further discussion, O'Kelley continued the presentation and requested
feedback to establish criteria for demolition that may occur unplanned because of
other work occurring on a historic property.
Chair Walton shared that in his experience no unrevealed planned demolition request
would be unjustified.
Commissioner Romero recalled an instance where the applicant was approved a
remodel request, but instead began the demolition process of the house.
Commissioner Romero explained that unforeseen possibilities should be brought to
HARC with solutions and shared that this may happen with an inspection.
Chair Walton agreed and recommended that an analysis of a possibility of certain
circumstances is brough to HARC and approved or disapproved before it occurs.
With no further discussion from the dais, the meeting temporarily recessed at 8:24 PM
and returned at 8:29 PM.
O'Kelley continued the presentation and requested feedback on fence standards for
lots with more than one frontage.
Commissioner Romero expressed concern with approval of fence request and later
seeing the request slightly modified to change the transparency. Commissioner
Romero shared that there may need to be a follow up to ensure the applicant is in
compliance with the approved request.
Commissioner Burns shared that the most challenging aspect of fence COA review was
that residents aren't aware of it and suggested that the descriptions to be clearer for all to
understand.
Chair Walton shared that the most challenging aspect of fence COA review was that
HARC was not provided an explanation of why the fence is requested. Chair Walton
explained that the front height standard on corner and double frontage lots should be
clarified and shared that the code should include verbiage regarding the front door
signifying the location of the front yard. Chair Walton explained that opacity should be
clarified in the code regarding corner and double frontage lots. Chair Walton shared that
gates higher than human height needs to be address in the code.
Commission Powell suggested in increasing communication and educating residents on
fence regulations with a regularly scheduled letter. Commissioner Powell recommended in
clarifying the front yard regarding the front door.
Commissioner Martin shared that the most challenging aspect of fence COA review was
that the UDC requires something that conflicts with the design guidelines or vice versa.
Commissioner Martin added that another challenging aspect of fence COA review is when
the resident replaces an existing fence that then would be out of compliance with
Adjournment
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