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Historic and Architectural Review Commission
City of Georgetown,, Texas
Thursday., September 12, 2024
The Georgetown Historic and Architectural Review Commission met on Thursday, September 12,
2024 at 6-00 PM at Council and Court Building, 510 W 9th Street,
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The following Members were in attendance:
Present were: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein, Alton Martin,
Jennifer Powell, Heather Smith, Robert Blomquist
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1. Regular Session
1,A Meeting Minutes
Consideration and possible action to approve the minutes from the August 22, 2024,
regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission -- Erica Metress,
AMMEMEMEM
Motion Approved: 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein,
Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
1.B 2024-39-COA (313 E8th Street)
Public hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness for
an addition that creates a new, or adds to an existing street facing facade on a Low
Priority Structure and a new fence that is inconsistent with the overlay district's applicable
guidelines for the property located at 313 E. 8th Street, bearing the legal description of
0.165 acres out of Block 17 (E/PT) Glasscock Addition (2024-39-COA) -- Maddison
O'Kelley, Preservation and Redevelopment Manager
Gary Wang, applicant, approached the podium to address the commission to introduce
the owners of the property.
Craig and Jennifer Pizer, owners, approached the podium to address the commission
and introduced themselves.
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subject property and the rear of the neighbor's property and inquired about the height o
the neighbor's home in comparison to the height of the new addition. Wang explained
that there is a two-story home. Wang added that the garage was set back and not
aligned with the neighboring structure.
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side of the garage. Wang mentioned that there was a question of looming and in
response, would be able to raise the sill height of the windows.
Commissioner Hein asked if the fence on Elm Street was proposed to be located on the
property line. Wang explained that they are proposing the location of the fence to be on
the property line.
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Chair Walton asked staff to provide clarification on the windows that were discussed in the
staff report concerning looming. OKelley explained that the windows concerning looming
in the staff report were the windows on the rear facing elevation. When there are windows
on the rear that are facing into an adjacent property's rear side yard, it is recommended
that the windows have at least a sill height of 65 inches. OKelley shared that the smaller
accent window met the requirement, but the full-size windows mentioned and the windows
on the west facing elevation do not meet the requirement.
2nd floor from the west facing elevation and still maintain lighting as intended. Wang
explained that there is a rhythm with the placement of the windows and shared the
alternative option that did not allow for a recommended or typical sill height.
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6-feet, non -transparent fences take on the image of a wall. Commissioner Martin
recommended to add more transparency to the current proposal of the fence on Elm
Street.
O'Kelley shared that the applicant would accept a condition to postpone the scope
work around the fence to a future meeting date so that they can provide additional
material to address what was discussed. I
Moved by Evan Hein; seconded by Lawrence Romero to Approve with following
conditions: sill height of the north facing windows on the addition are raised to the
recommended 65 inches, all windows are updated with approved materials, the east
of 5% transparency.
Motion Approved: 6- 1
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein,
Jennifer Powell, Heather Smith
Voting Against: Alton Martin
1.0 2024-45-COA (1611. Austin Avenue)
Public Hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness
(COA) for an addition that creates a new street -facing fagarle, an addition to a porch,
patio, or deck and the replacement of a historic architectural feature with a non-histor
architectural feature for the property located at 1611 S Austin Ave, bearing the legal
description of Lot 5, Block 2, Logan Addition (2024-45-COA) -- Olivia Beams, Historic
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Leonard Wallace and Victoria Wallace, applicants, and Krista Whitley, owner,
approached the podium to address the Commission and introduced the participants.
Victoria Wallace provided a presentation.
Commissioner Powell inquired about the historic design guidelines as it pertains to
distinguishing the new style from the old style.
Beams provided a jog in the foundation as an example of distinguishing new styles
from old styles and adding conjectural features that may be present on other homes
when it is not presented on the requested home.
Commissioner Powell recommended keeping in style with the original column and
recommended that the applicant consider adding an iron fence in the front yard as a
barrier to unwanted traffic. Whitley acknowledged that an iron fence would not allow
parking for the owner as street parking is not available.
Chair Walton highlighted that the proposed design does not have a railing and
explained that he was not concerned with the front deck and dormer.
Commissioner Burns asked staff if the addition of the porch can be added without the
need for the roofline to cover it. Beams explained that the applicant would need to submit
a new set of plans for staff to review the request. Beams added that staff does not review
flat work as part of the COA process and that the design guidelines generally call for a
deck to located at the rear of the property.
Commissioner Burns voiced that she has no concerns with the deck on the north side of
structure and the dormer. Commissioner Burns shared that she was concerned with the
style of the columns and added that she does not like the change in the roofline.
Commissioner Hein shared his concern with roofline as it impacts the character of the
front fapade and added that a porch without the roof may be more desirable.
Commissioner Hein suggested in setting the porch back from the front facade or adding
a wrought iron 4-foot fence along the side.
Commissioner Hein asked staff if there was guidance on the amount of differentiation or
setback from the fapade to create adequate differentiation. Beams acknowledged that
there's no guidance in terms of numeration, but the design guidelines call for a jog in
foundation or a small change in materials to help visually distinguish the new style from
the old style.
Maddison O'Kelley, Preservation and Redevelopment Manager, acknowledged that
Beams was correct and added that there is guidance on additions that impact character of
defining elevations. O'Kelley shared that the guidance was to set back 10 feet from the
front fapade of the original architecture.
Commissioner Romero highlighted the change in integrity of the overall structure and
asked if the changes would lose the structure as a historic asset. Beams explained that
ITmWmftnvv would not necessarik3 lose status altolether and clarified that there could bi
a possibility in lowering the priority designation. However, Beams clarified that she did n
want to speak to the next potential historic resources survey, i
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Liz weaver, 1221 South Main Street, approached the podium to address the Commission
and shared that John Reynolds purchased the lot and built the structure in 1913. Weaver
requested that the commission considered the propositions carefully. Weaver highlighted
that the structure was not identified as a Belford house but built by an employee of the
Belford Lumber Company. Weaver shared that she found information regarding a
completed mechanics lien in 1937. Weaver highlighted that the alterations remain as is
since 1937 besides the alterations to the columns. Weaver explained that the property is
in the northern downtown gateway which limits parking. Weaver reiterated that the home
is not a Belford home, but built by someone who worked for Belford, and that the addition
was completed in 1937.
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Certain to the October 10, 2024, HARC meeting to review comments and make
adjustments to the proposed front porch extension.
Motion Postpone to Date Certain: 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein,
Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
1.D 2024-40-COA (1:411 S. College Street)
Public Hearing and possible action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness
(COA) for an addition that creates a new, or adds to an existing street facing facade, a
setback modification to allow a proposed addition Z-8" into the required 6'-0" side
setback, and replacing a historic architectural feature with a non -historic architectural
feature for the property located at 1411 S. College Street, bearing the legal description
of 0. 135 acres out of Block 97 (PT) Dimmit Addition (2024-40-COA) -- Maddison O'Kelley,
Preservation and Redevelopment Manager
Dorthy Fallin, owner, approached the podium to address the commission and
acknowledged that she and her husband purchased the home with no intention of
making the changes proposed. However, Fallin highlighted the need for the changes
due to rodent damage, termite damage, and plumbing issues.
Commissioner Hein highlighted that the guidelines mention that additions should be
subordinate to the main structure and continued to speak of the scale of the request as
overwhelming given the size of the structure and lot.
Commissioner Powell acknowledged that the hand drawings of the proposal were difficult
to capture the scale and asked if Lawton could provide context to give an idea of the
scale of the second story at street level. Lawton explained that the second story is
setback quite a bit and mentioned the measurement to be about 34 feet back. Lawton
highlighted that the addition would be the only place to bring more square footage to the
structure and acknowledged that changing the roofline creates space so that it is not so
dominant.
Commissioner Powell inquired about the opportunity for double hung windows on the
second story. Lawton acknowledged that one can be added, but the staircase is placed
there to allow for a decorative window. Lawton added that a fireplace is added because
the original house had a fireplace.
Commissioner Smith expressed difficulty in visualizing the distance of the addition due to
the hand drawings.
Commissioner Martin shared his confusion on how the structure was deemed as a
medium priority designation because it is an assembly of at least 3 different construction
periods. Commissioner Martin continued to share his concern that the structure's
condition may be worse than anticipated. Commissioner Martin concluded with a
comment that he was generally supportive of the request but would like to see work on
the windows and make sure there was no looming.
Chair Walton opened the public hearing.
Jud Harris, 1403 South College Street, approached the podium to address the
Commission and would not like the structure torn down. Harris shared that he
sympathizes with the owner and wished that the rear windows complied. Harris would
like the front pitched roof to remain and wish there was a solution to all the concerns.
Harris concluded that he was not in favor of the request as it is.
Doris Curl, 1404 South College Street, approached the podium to address the
Commission and shared that she lived across the structure since 1977. Curl shared that
she was not supportive of the request as proposed and hoped to find a resolution as the
house poses many challenges. Curl added that she would like the history of the front of
the house saved. Curl highlighted that the proposal is overwhelming to the lot and street.
Curl concluded with hope to find a resolution.
Elaine Sebald, 1810 Eubank Street, approached the podium to address the Commission
and believed that support should be given to people who purchase homes in the area
and essentially take on projects. Sebald highlighted that there were two attempts to
demolish the structure in 2017 and acknowledged the condition that it is in. Sebald
believed that there should be a balance in historic preservation considerations and
work done for the homes. Sebald concluded with consideration of the scale of the
house.
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Discussion on roofline between Lawton, Commissioner Romero, and Commissioner
Hein.
Moved by Jennifer Powell-, seconded by Alton Martin to Postpone to Date Certain to the
September 26, 2024, HARC Meeting to allow the applicant to revise the design based on
the feedback.
Motion Postpone to Date Certain* 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Michael J Walton, Evan Hein,
Alton Martin, Jennifer Powell, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
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1. E 2024-24-COA (1406 Pine Street)
Conceptual Review on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for a 5'
encroachment into the required 20' front setback, a 5' building height modification
from the required 15' building height, and new infill construction for the property
located at 1406 Pine Street, bearing the legal description of Lot 1, Block A, Park
Subdivision (2024-24-COA) -- Olivia Beams, Historic and Downtown Planner
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Cary and Michelle Barfield, owners, approached the podium to address the commission
and acknowledged that the proposal is two stories in height. Cary highlighted additional
two-story homes within the area. Cary shared that the property is too narrow for a back
garage which is why the garage proposed to be in the front of the home. Cary shared that
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that the window on the second floor of the right side of the home is a window that would
let light into the staircase. Cary concluded with explaining that the brick of the home woul4l
be painted white.
Commissioner Martin commented that the overall size of the building is out of scale
with the neighborhood.
Cary shared that the peak of the garage is proposed as such to camouflage that it is a
two-story home.
Commissioner Smith shared her appreciation for the awning and suggested to set the
fireplace further into the room to avoid encroachment.
Commissioner Powell agreed that there is variety in infill construction in the area and
agreed with Commissioner Martin that the structure is overwhelming with the surrounding
neighborhood. Commissioner Powell asked if the garage could be recessed in
comparison to the front door. Cary shared that they would need to inquire with the
architect.
Chair Walton highlighted staff's analysis in which the proposed structure is 149% larger
than other homes on the block and that the home has multiple siding materials and
architectural features, including chimneys, a pergola over the garage, and a feature
window. Chair Walton agreed with Commissioner Martin that the design of the home is
different from old town and repeated that the architectural character with the old town
area does not comply.
Commissioner Burns agreed with Walton and highlighted that there are a lot of roof
angles and shapes. Commissioner Burns believed that the home should be simpler for
the block and old town.
Commissioner Hein highlighted that the guidelines around the architecture, porch, roof
pattern and form, and consistency of the windows were non -compliant and recommended
more consistency with the guidelines in those areas.
Commissioner Romero believed that two stories are appropriate in the area, that the
garage location is the only available location, and that the overall size is different than
structures in the area.
Michelle shared that the reason for the roof line is that they wanted to preserve the one-
story style on one side of the home and avoid looming into the neighbor's home.
Cary requested key points from the discussion. Chair Walton suggested striving for
greater adherence to the design guidelines.
Commissioner Smith explained that there may be possible ways to simplify the roofline.
No action was taken on this item as it was a conceptual review.
1.17 Discussion Items
Updates on Upcoming Training for HARC Commissioners, Downtown Master Plan, UDC
Rewrite, and Commissioner questions and comments -- Maddison O'Kelley, Preservation
and Redevelopment Manager
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