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Historic and Architectural Review Commission
City of Georgetown, Texas
Monday., March 24, 2025
The Georgetown Historic and Architectural Review Commission met on Monday, March 24, 2025 at
6:00 PM at City Hall Community Room, 808 Martin Luther King Jr. Street.
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The following Members were in attendance:
Present were: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Evan Hein, Jennifer Powell, Robert Blomquist,
Stuart Garner, Heather Smith
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1 . Regular Session
1.A Meeting Minutes
Consideration and possible action to approve the minutes from the March 13, 2025,
regular meeting of the Historic and Architectural Review Commission -- Erica Metress,
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Motion Approved: 7- 0
Voting For: Lawrence Romero, Linda C Burns, Evan Hein, Jennifer Powell,
Robert Blomquist, Stuart Garner, Heather Smith
Voting Against: None
1.B 817 S. Austin Avenue (2024-76-COA)
Public Hearing and action on a request for a Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) for an
alteration of street -facing fagade (elevation facing S. Austin Avenue) on a Low Priority
Structure located at the property addressed at 817 S. Austin Avenue, bearing the legal
description of Lots 6-8 (PTS), Block 51, City of Georgetown (2024-76-COA) -- Sofia
Nelson, Planning Director
Adam Starr, applicant, approached the speaking area and provided a presentation. Starr
shared that he grew up in Georgetown and shared thanks to city staff, the Historic and
Architectural Review Commission, and supporters of the community. Starr explained that
he had replaced 1,500 loose or broken bricks that had been exposed by the elements
from the south wall of the structure. Starr continued to explain the replacement of the tin
roof with insulation and a rubber membrane and discussed replacement of the rooftop
skylights. Starr explained that the request was to create a draw for people to allow for
more foot traffic on the side of Austin Avenue in which the building sits. Starr describes the
request as a way to highlight historical pieces.
Commissioner Hein inquired about a summary of the feedback provided since th4
request was presented to the commission,
Kimberly Spencer, Assistant Planning Director, explained that staff included the
collective comments received from the public within staff' s presentation of the agenda
packet.
Commissioner Hein highlighted that changes made in the request were minimal and
noted that staff's recommendation changed substantially. Commissioner Hein asked staff
to summarize how staff s recommendation could differ from one review to the next.
Nelson explained that staff's recommendation of approval was consistent from the
beginning of this request. Nelson highlighted that the reports dated August 16, 2024, and
March 21, 2025, had recommendations of approval. Nelson highlighted that the design
guidelines and number of compliances are the key. Nelson explained that the building
was a 1 story structure so references to 2 story windows were not applicable to the
specific application. Nelson further explained that the review references voids and solids
because of the portion above and below the awning that contributed to the first floor
glazing and solid-to-vold surface area.
Commissioner Hein referred to Approval Criteria number 6 found in section 3.13.030 of
the UDC and asked staff to explain the determination of non -applicability. Nelson agreed
with Commissioner Hein in that the front facade is the most defining character of a
structure and explained that staff analyzed the way the approval criteria was worded. Staff
analyzed whether the request was a new building, a new addition, or was adding on to an
existing building, and found that the criteria was not applicable.
Commissioner Hein referred to 1.5.1-1- Storefronts of the design guidelines and shared that
his understanding was that if the original storefront was unknown, then the
recommendation was to model after the architecture or styles that were seen in the
surrounding structures. Nelson explained that staff analyzed the critical elements of the
design guidelines and reviewed the awning, window, and storefront windows.
Commissioner Hein acknowledged that the request was unusual in that the structure
appears as a second story structure when it is a 1 story structure and acknowledged that
the request was specific to the storefront. Commissioner Hein noted that the architectural
elements of the request were not modeled after storefronts in the area and that the
request did not comply with the ratio of solid to void surface. Commissioner Hein referred
to Design Guidelines 1.5.B.2: Form and highlighted that the structure in question had two
gabled roofs that were originally covered by a rectangular front facade. Commissioner
Hein shared that, based on the information provided, the trusses have always been
obscured and that they were not meant to be a traditional architectural element, but
instead, a support structure with a rectangular facade. Commissioner Hein concluded that
he would interpret the guidelines that the preference would be to maintain the rectangular
form.
With no further discussion or questions from the dais, Vice Chair Burns opened the
public hearing.
Liz Weaver, 1221 South Main Street, approached the speaking area and shared her
concern of approval criteria 6 in the approval summary. Weaver questioned how the
request was not considered an addition after the approval of the demolition of the front
facade. Weaver explained that the staff report included that there was no evidence of the
original character of the storefront of the building. Weaver explained that the building was
built around 1924, and that Lindell Peterson Hardware Store was the first occupant.
Weaver provided images of the structure from 1929 and shared that the year was
confirmed due to movie posters that appear to the left and the date of known truck shows.
Weaver spoke of the character of the building with regard to the window pattern and roll
up door. Weaver highlighted that over time there were different iterations of the awnings
but explained that the building essentially remained the same. Weaver shared that the
staff noted within the report that the Secretary of Interior standards were reviewed
primarily against the demolition of the fapade. Weaver highlighted that the Secretary of
Interior standards does not recommend removing or substantially changing storefronts
and their features which are important in defining the overall historic character of the
building. Weaver also highlighted that the Secretary of Interior standards does not
recommend removing a storefront that is unrepairable and not replacing it with a new
storefront that does not match. Weaver shared concerns regarding the amount of time
and opportunity to review the structure with an upper story versus a structure as 1 story.
Weaver referred to a case that HARC reviewed in the past and questioned the
determination by HARC. Weaver concluded with a request that the commission deny the
request in question.
Dani Babik, 1008 East University Avenue, approached the speaking area and
commended the owner for the desire and courage to purchase a historic building. Babik
expressed that owning a structure that is an essential part of Georgetown was a
responsibility, commitment and honor to maintain the historic appeal of the square. Babik
believed that the request does not look historic and highlighted that HARC provided
helpful feedback, but instead of providing a new design, the owner submitted the same
design with minor changes. Babik believed that the mirror glaze would be hazardous due
to the structure facing west. Babik highlighted that each time the design was submitted,
the number of citizen comments against the request increased. Babik shared that the
design would not be out of place for a place trying to create a new town square and
shared that it was inappropriate for Georgetown's square. Babik concluded with thanks to
the owner for the courage to restore a historic structure, and thanks to HARC for voting
against the proposal and continuing to preserve the historic town square.
Jenelle Looney, 300 San Gabriel Village Boulevard, approached the speaking area and
spoke in favor of the fagade. Looney explained that Starr, the owner, grew up in
Georgetown and was not an outside developer trying to change the square. Looney
believed that the structure did not have an interesting character. Looney shared that the
design included the most interesting architectural element, the peaks of the roof, and
shared that highlighting that would make an impact. Looney concluded with hope that
HARC would vote in favor of the proposal.
Debra Hobbs, 817 South Austin Avenue, approached the speaking area and shared that
she is the owner of All Things New and shared a direct relationship with residents who
frequent the square. Hobbs stated that the history was what made Georgetown so unique.
Hobbs shared that she was a store owner on the square for over 20 years and had never
heard anyone say they visit the square to see all the new structures. Hobbs explained that
disapproval could make a difference. Hobbs believed that developers and building owners
will make the square modern. Hobbs encouraged city staff to listen to those who frequent
the square.
Cordy Trevino, 817 South Austin Avenue, approached the speaking area and explained
that she owns a boutique business inside of All Things New. Trevino explained that she
opened her business on the square because she loved to go to the square to shop.
Trevino expressed that renovations should be in keeping of the tradition of Georgetown
square. Trevino shared that she has a business in Round Rock as well, but did not want
Georgetown's square to be like downtown Round Rock or South Congress in Austin.
Trevino highlighted that small businesses are being displaced but shared that she hears
customers and tourist comment that Georgetown has a beautiful square. Trevino
explained that the square needs a lot of shopping sources to be available.
Cherie Akiva, 104 Rosespring, approached the speaking area and explained that she is a
land developer. Akiva shared that she enjoyed the way the architect brought out and
taken use of the trusses of the structure. Akiva believed that the commission should approve
the proposal. Akiva shared that she does not visit buildings on the square that look like it
could fall. Akiva concluded that she enjoys that historic elements are trying to be preserved.
Chris Marble, 150 Turtle Creek, approached the speaking area and shared that he is the
architect assigned to the request. Marble explained that there is generational handoff for
people who are trying to grow in the community. Marble explained that they are utilizing
traditional materials and keeping the 3-window rhythm. Marble highlighted that transoms are
not defined well in the guidelines and highlighted that the design guidelines mention the
generic character of overall downtown. Marble concluded that they are trying not to bring in
anything new and trying to utilize pieces from the historical area.
Joe Savage, 4011 Malaga Drive, approached the speaking area and shared that he is
present to advocate for the future of downtown Georgetown. Savage requested that HARC
assist with advocating for the preservation of historic architecture. Savage spoke of the
finances the owner has put forth in the structure, including $950K beyond the original
purchase. Savage explained that Starr's passion was to showcase the historic and
architectural significance of the structure. Savaged posed a question of whether the current
structure or the structure with a renovated fagade would be beneficial to the downtown area.
Savage requested that HARC make a positive force of historic and architectural preservation
in passing the project.
Vice Chair Burns closed the public hearing.
Question on postponement as an option. It was deemed that postponement to a date certain
with specific reasons was an option.
Commissioner Hein thanked the owner for diligence that went into the design and explained
that his role was to ensure the preservation of historic Georgetown. Commissioner Hein
shared concerns with the large window that displays the trusses and the design guidelines
around scale, the use of rectangular shapes, storefront preservation of the original fag'ade or
using retaining elements from surrounding structures. Commissioner Hein asked Starr if he
was willing to make modifications to the large window space. Starr explained that he has
made modifications per HARC directions from the past and explained that he preferred the
proposed design. Commissioner Romero shared that he enjoyed the design but was not in
favor as it was proposed. Commissioner Romero did not recommend postponement because
the owner did not want to make changes to the design.
With no further discussion, Vice Chair Burns asked for a motion from the dais.
Moved by Evan Hein; seconded by Robert Blomquist to Deny as presented due to non-
compliance with Design Guideline (1.5.H), as it relates to preserving original storefronts and
Design Guideline (1.5.13), as it relates to mass, scale, and use of rectangles.
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Motion Approved- 5- 2
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LC Demolition Criteria and Definitions
Presentation and discussion on criteria for demolitions Within the Old Town and
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Vice Chair Burns announced that staff requested that item I.0 be discussed at a later
date.
Adjournment
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